John rang...
"Got a few Valhalla power supplies here that are defeating me, can you take a look?"
Yeah, why not.
Now these were the stalwart LP12 PSU once they'd decided that a crystal controlled supply was a good idea. Don't forget boys and girls; Linn ownership is all about upgrades, right?
Be aware all of this power supply is not isolated from mains. Use an isolation transformer during repair and fault finding. Make sure not to inadvertently earth the GND with your scope. You're no longer isolated if you do!
See the red bit in the disclaimer.
It a simple circuit. A 3.768MHz crystal is divided down to get a 50Hz square wave by IC3 (a 4060), and IC5 (4013) . This is switched through some control logic (IC4, another 4013), via the one preset on the board , to a square-wave to sine wave converter formed by IC2 (LM3902), which also provides some gain to drive Q1 & Q2 which drives the output stage formed by Q's 3 & 4. As the output is single ended it's DC component is removed by C18, and supplied to one phase of the motor. A phase shift capacitor is used to drive the other phase.
Most faults can be cleared by changing ALL the electrolytic capacitors, there are 7 in total.
C1,2 and 8 are 47uF 250V axial parts.
C3 is a 220uF 10V axial.
C8 & C15 is a 22uF 50V radial.
C14 is a 1uF 50V radial.
Use quality 105 degree parts. John had already done the caps ...
If that doesn't put it right, check for the presence of 320VDC on the positive end of C1 to GND. This is the HT supply. If that's missing, check the mains fuse (doh!). I've seen the bridge rectifier (BR1) fail a few times. If it's one of those odd looking square or rectangle things a Vishay W10G-E4/51 is an ideal replacement. R1 (47R) is also a frequent flyer!
A short circuit output stage will also cause violent fuse blowing!
Check for the presence of about 9VDC across C3. This is the LT supply. If it's missing, check R2 and R3, both 15K/5W for high or open. Change for a 7W part. They run damn hot. I always try and mount them a little off the board to allow for a bit of airflow. Some older boards can be quite scorched! IC1 can fail giving intermittent or no 9V. It can be replaced by MC3386/MC3346/LM3045/LM3046/LM3144 or an ECG912 (I don't think I've ever even seen one of those!) Z1, a 7.6V 0.25W zener diode, can also go short, open or drift. If you get an unstable or intermittent 9V, change this before IC1. If the 9V is being loaded down by a fault on elsewhere, generally an offending IC, which will reveal itself by getting damn hot! If you're really unlucky (and it has happened) I've seen instances where all the ICs have failed. Other symptoms of a poor 9V rail are inability to set the 85V up, and dim/no LED, even if the supply appears to be working.
Now the supplies are present, check for a 200Hz square wave output on pin 3 of IC3, if that's missing, the crystal or the IC itself may have thrown in the towel.
Square waves present? Good ... Now push the start button. 200Hz Square waves should be present on pin 12 of IC5. If they aren't there suspect the switch itself, or IC 4 or 5.
OK, you should now have a reduced amplitude 50Hz square wave on the end of R14 nearest the pot (there's a 4V DC offset here). If you haven't the pot has gone open (caught me out once!).
Scope the waveform on pin 14 of IC2, it should be a nice healthy 50Hz sine wave. If it's not, replace IC2.
Measure the voltage on pin 10 of IC2. Should be 1.9VDC with respect to GND. If it's not, check the value of R32 (560K). It often goes high, upsetting the bias of the output stage.
Still not working? Check Q1 (BC327, tends to fail open), Q2 (very rarely fails), Q3 and Q4 (either 2SC2501 or BUX84). The BUX84 has a nasty habit of going low gain, and causing issues. Measure it's HFe, should be over 20.
D2 very occasionally fails open, causing the motor to hum or not start. C19 causes the same issue.
The motor is often at fault on high mileage units! Check by substitution. Get a motor from Rega, it's the same and less money! Unlike the Axis, the motor will happily run all day without belt or platter.
Be careful when changing parts as the print quality varies from reasonable to awful. None as bad as the Axis! There are many slight revisions to the boards, many have slightly different markings, a transistor can be marked Q,VT or TR. IC's U or IC.
Finally adjust the pot for 85V on the negative end of C18, or between the grey and red wires on the motor.
Now sit back, and enjoy some music.
Thanks for a great write-up. A most useful reference.
ReplyDeleteA couple of comments:
1. The crystal will be either a 3.2768Hz for the 50Hz (21mm pulley) motor or 3.92 for the 60 Hz (17mm pulley) motor. Each should be matched to its appropriate phase cap (C19) at 0.22uF and 0.18 uF respectively.
2. There are actually a total of 8 electrolytics, C20 is also a 1uF electrolytic, even though it is not marked as such on most schematics.
# I have checked everything but I still see no AC output over either red or blue.
This is great. Thanks for the comprehensive guide!
ReplyDeleteThe problem on my Valhalla is that the motor spins in the wrong direction. In the service manual R32 is listed as a possible cause but I checked and that resistor is in spec. I've replaced IC2 as there was not a clean sine wave on pin 14, but that did not resolve the issue.
I've checked voltages, transistors and most resistors and could not find any obvious fault.
Any additional troubleshooting tips? Thanks!
*carefully* measure the ac voltage on each phase, between red and grey , and blue and grey, see if one is missing. You have changed the caps, right? Also worth measuring the resistance of each winding in the motor, to see if one is odd... they should be within ~10 ohms of one another.
DeleteYes, I did recap earlier.
DeleteSo I did a few measurements. Ac voltage is present on both phases although with a ~10VAC difference.
Resistance values for the windings are 4.394 kΩ vs. 4.334 kΩ with leads detached (Thorens TD160 motor). This exceeds the ~10 ohms threshold so would this be a possible cause for the motor spinning in reverse direction?
Wait ... you're using a Thorens motor?? It *always* runs backwards?
DeleteOk I should have explained... I'm using the Valhalla on a modded Thorens TD160 turntable (as some other people are doing). It used to work fine for a few years, no issues.
DeleteAfter that I put the the turntable in storage for awhile. When I tried to reinstall I noticed the motor was turning in the wrong direction. So that's when I tried a quick repair (assuming it was the PSU at fault) and replaced all the caps and did some troubleshooting using your guide.
Did you disconnect the motor at any time? I'd try reversing the polarity on ONE phase.
DeleteAlso did you change the phase cap to match the Thorens motor? I forget the exact spec but IIRC the Thorens is a 16 pole motor compared to the the Linn's 24?
DeleteHallo,
ReplyDeletediese Seite ist sehr hilfreich. Habe eine revidierte Valahalla in ein schönes Alugehäuse gebaut und treibe den Ariston RD 40 mit neunen 24 pol. Premotec Motor. Alles sehr laufruhig im Gegensatz zum Standart mit Vorwiderstand/Phasenschieber-C.
Nur anschubsen ist Pflicht.
Gute Arbeit!
DeleteDanke !
DeleteHey,
ReplyDeleteChanged R1 as it was blown, but blows as soon as I power up. Any idea?
Fuse should be letting go long before that fails! Check the fuse is the correct value! Could be a nasty short almost anywhere ... BR1, VDR's short (if fitted), C1, C2, U1 (although unlikely , usually fails noisy or open), or the output transistors.
DeleteThanks for getting back to me, much appreciated.
ReplyDeleteChanged Caps (C1, C2, C18, C3, C8, C14, C15, C20), BR1 diodes were passing so changed. Changed R2 & R3 whilst I was there as they looked hot.
Now powers up and works but left on for a while and R1 blew again.
Fuse is a 2A not 1A (I should know better!! lol)
Will change R1 and fit correct fuse but the fuse is just going to blow instead.
Can't see any varistors and not sure how to test an IC, but the transistors are giving me some funny readings so will remove from the board and check again.
I've had axis output transistors cause intermittent fuse blowing before... Not sure a static test will show up the issue...
DeleteHello Doz...great blog here thank you...very informative. My question is regarding very dim LED on the Valhalla switch. Everything else seems to be functioning correctly after resolving other issues which necessitated changing IC1, VT3 and 4, and R26. Previously I had also replaced the bridge, R1 (VR), R2 and R3, C1 C2 C3 and C18. But still the LED is dim. I have 1.8 volts on the output to the switch (between 1/2 and 3/4). Is there a specific voltage LED required here maybe ?
ReplyDeleteThanks again...
Have you replaced the LED ? It varies as the motor current changes a bit.
DeleteThanks for your reply... Yes I changed the LED...first checked it on my variable DC supply. I have also now run three different motors off that board but still no LED. Also tried a good working switch off another LP12 and again no LED. Tried the original switch (with no LED) on another good Valhalla board and the LED worked (1.8 V)...so not the switch or LED...got me totally befuddled mainly because I have 1.6 volts on the LED...wish I had a schematic with voltage test points...As an FYI I am a retired computer systems engineer so do this as a hobby and at the same time make a bit of wine money...thanks again for your input...
ReplyDelete9V OK?
DeleteThis site has proved most helpful.
ReplyDeleteI am repairing a dead Valhalla that was sold as a "brave rebuild" but has proved fairly easy to get working with one exception - dim LED, exactly the same issue as the previous post. The board had not been top soldered at R26 & C3 with the usual consequences. All now rectified with all electrolytic capacitors and failed resistors replaced along with new IC1 (now LM3086N) and IC4. Q3 &4 had failed so all 3 BUX84 replaced with BUX85G. Everything works except for the led which is very dim. The 9V rail is 8.64V (off) and 8.67V (on) which is a bit low. All resistors associated with the voltage regulator are correct as is the HT voltage. Z1 is a 7v5 rather than 7v6 (which seems a non-standard value). Voltage across the LED is 0.932V (off) and 1.561V (on). I don't have a switch so for testing I just connected a standard red LED across 2-3 at the plug (tried several different types). All tests were with a motor connected (but not loaded). Motor volts set to a stable 85V and frequency is stable at 49.99Hz.
The dim LED is a bit of a puzzle - any pointers as to where to go next with this.
TIA
What have you got on Pin1 of the switch? The 9V never gets much above 8.7...
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